Questions about town and parish councils
Follow Councillor Q&A on BlueSky

Follow us on BlueSky

0 votes
Can a budget ever be approved where the unrestricted and available cash balances are less than the sum of the EMR and General Reserve? The budget set out planned expenditure which is roughly equal to the precept. But the available cash (assuming all of the budget is spent) will not cover both the EMR and General Reserve. Is this right?
by (500 points)

2 Answers

0 votes
When you say unrestricted I assume you refer to annual budget spending as specified in the precept application (ex reserves)

EMRs must be held for genuine and intended purposes of expenditure which the council considers likely to be required in the future and greater than that which can be funded from a single year’s budget. Their level should be subject to annual review and justification. They should be separately identified to prevent query from internal and external auditors and to track closely the use and movement of such amounts. The use of the reserves is by council vote and can include transfer or reduction of held amounts to the budget requirement to reduce the precept levied on the community.

For example if a project is envisaged at a point in future and is cancelled the amounts reserved for that project can be transferred to the budget and re- allocated after consent by the council.
by (28.7k points)
Sorry for any confusion in trying to set this out…let me try again… the Council has approved its budget for the next year including earmarked and general reserves of £5k. Problem is, it only has £2k to cover them. Is this right?
Lets see if we can finally get there. When your budget is set it should have an amount set for transfer to the reserves section of the account with specified listing of what it is reserved for. The balance of your budget( and precept requirement) is to cover whatever you wish to spend on the foreseen day to day running of the council over the following budget year. So your precept should be bid enough to cover day to day projects and running cost + Reserves to be held. The £2k that was bequeathed cannot be touched and presumably the interest enters either the reserve account or the day to day budget .
Yes that’s right. So when it set its budget, it didn’t have sufficient cash in the bank plus the precept it will collect to cover its budgeted spend and transfer/allocate money to its total reserves. Its cash in is 2+6=8. It’s cash out is 6+5=11. Simply put, it doesn’t have enough cash to cover its reserves. Does this seem right?
Sounds like your finance group need some training on basic accountancy practices and better budgeting planning.
So there must be a minus figure on your balance sheet ?
0 votes
Investments which are locked up for 12 months or more should be accounted for in a different way than other balances. They aren't recorded as cash on the balance sheet and annual return but should be counted among the assets instead because the money isn't available to spend. It doesn't sound like the budgetary process was adequate if the budget relies upon using this money.
by (570 points)
edited by
For those of us who have worked in budgetary control PC Finances are a whole new world.  I still cant understand why we review EMR a month after set the budget/percept
Forgive me, but where is this stated?
John 1706 . I agree it isnt . When I challenged the clerk. Her response was
1.        We have to submit our budget by the end of Jan, we don’t have the
same restriction on EMR.
2.        Reserves are reviewed annually, close to the year end so that any
use of reserves can be taken into consideration.
Reply to John1706:
You'll find it in JPAG Practitioners Guide, which lays out "proper practices" in local council accounting.

Welcome to Town & Parish Councillor Q&A, where you can ask questions and receive answers from other members of the community. All genuine questions and answers are welcome. Follow us on Twitter to see the latest questions as they are asked - click on the image button above or follow @TownCouncilQA. Posts from new members may be delayed as we are unfortunately obliged to check each one for spam. Spammers will be blacklisted.

You may find the following links useful:

We have a privacy policy and a cookie policy.

Clares Cushions logo Peacock cushion

Clare's Cushions creates beautiful hand made cushions and home accessories from gorgeous comtemporary fabrics. We have a fantastic selection of prints including Sophie Allport and Orla Kiely designs and most covers can be ordered either alone or with a cushion inner. Buying new cushions is an affordable and effective way to update your home interior, they're also a great gift idea. Visit our site now

3,115 questions
6,157 answers
8,578 comments
10,861 users
Google Analytics Alternative