The group was set up by the Full Council, hence the recommendations to the Full Council. There's no issue regarding the Full Council approving (or not) recommendations of the group. I'm trying to understand the powers of the intermediate EC with regard to the group's recommendations. Can the EC simply comment, or just take note and wait until full council before forcing a vote, or can the EC simply reject a recommendation in a meeting which always meets a week prior to the Full Council meeting. After all , the recommendations are not to the EC. The ToR are no more explicit than stated as far as what the EC expects from the group. Is that the real issue?